10 February 2010

Fake Village Greens


Following today's edition of You and Yours on BBC Radio 4, helping to give exposure to the great village green swindle, the above picture has appeared on the programme's website.

It captures the dishonesty of the fake village greens industry made possible since the fateful - and utterly disgraceful - opinion of Lord Leornard Hoffman in the case called Sunningwell in 1999.

The government should look at that picture, which represents the perversion of the noble idea of genuine English village greens, and hang their heads in shame.

11 comments:

  1. This is adishonest portrayal of what happened in the case of Oswestry Railway land. I am one of the applicants and I also gave the Radio 4 programme pictures of what the land loooked like when we first claimed it. Over 200 mature trees, many saplings and bushes, woodland glade with many intersecting informal paths, at the heart of the town, well used and well loved - that is what we claimed. The owners trashed it when we informed them we were going to apply for registration, and chopped down all the trees, totally scalped the land of all its wildlfe and green, now they are trying to score points from their environmental damage. They made our Green a scrubland. They should hang their heads in shame that they are trying to use their wilful damage to undermine Town Green Law.

    June McCarthy

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  2. Further to June McCarthy's published comment above, at least we now know that the picture is of the Oswestry case. £2,000,000 of public money wasted, according to the statement given to the BBC by the property's landowner

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  3. Actually £2.5 million of public money wasted. (Source: the statement given to the BBC by the landowner in this case)

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  4. June, If a law was passed tomorrow that says you can claim your neighbours houses, would you then go and oust them from their properties, even though they have put their life savings into them. You mention dishonest, if claiming land that is clearly owned by someone else, is not dishonest, then i dont know what is. You need to get a life and stop stealing (albeit with the help of this rediculous law) peoples property that dont belong to you. This affects all landowners, and its even worse for the small developer that doesnt have large amounts of capital available, to fight the case.
    What is wrong with this country when a law like this, can exist in this day and age.
    We were all shocked looking at the documentries about the Spanish Land Grab fiasco. Watching the horror on the owners faces as their villas were raised to the ground and with it their life savings. Yet we have the same thing happening all over Britain today.
    WATCH OUT LANDOWNERS, THERE'S A NIMBY COMING FOR YOU!!

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  5. Just admit it June you found a loophole in the law and used it to get your own way for your own reasons. Pardon me but I'm just thumbing thru some old statutes to find a loophole in the law that abolished ducking stools for witches,

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  6. James, just admit it, when you have resorted to insult over logic, you have lost the argument.

    June McCarthy

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  7. James Mav didn't seem to be making any insult whatsoever. The way I read it, he was pointing out the ridiculous state of the law that allowed two people (Ms McCarthy and Ms A N Other) to diddle the hard-working taxpayer out of £2.5 million

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  8. June McCarthy

    I wish you would get your facts right! The town green did not cost £2.5 million, the road that the developer has built which serves the adjoining site cost most of that money. You are perverting the truth. The land owner felled all the trees on the land and remediated it, (ha! that's a joke), to scrub, after they knew it was to be claimed as a Town Green and when they knew 20 years use by local people was proven. They had no need to spend the money and trash the land, AWM squandered public money.

    You bandy £2.5 million about, If the land owner , Government Agency specnt £600,000 buying the land , does it look like nearly £2 million has been spect on the land? Doing what exactly? What is on the land? Nothing.

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  9. The £2.5m figure was given to the BBC by Advantage West Midlands, and used by the BBC at the end of its You and Yours report that June Mc participated in. So we have 'got our facts right'.
    Remediation costs could easily eat up £2.5m on its own.
    June McCarthy never refers to the FACT that it is not her property, it belonged to someone else. In this case the taxpayer, who has been fiddled out of a large sum of public money which has now been utterly wasted as a result of a few eco-nutters.

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  10. Many older town greens and parks were established in the Victorian era when the populations of our towns and cities were much lower. Now we have dense development, millions more people and cars. Don't you think we need new Greens for people to take recreation locally and to give children somewhere to let off steam?

    I bet you would be the first to call the police if children started playing football in your street, near your car, but perhaps you enjoy a country lifestyle yourself or just love being surrounded by bricks and mortar...? We need green spaces near peoples homes, people like it that way and use them and if a green space has been so used for over 20years without fear or favour then the people have won customary rights.

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  11. How about this scenario, I come in to your back garden, tear your dividing fences or hedges down and that of your neighbours and inform you, i'm taking control of this land. We then have one, nice big long playing field for the kids football games. What right do have? Just exercising my customary rights,i.e, I have let my dogs urinate in your garden, when you weren't looking, for the past 20 years. I bet you would be the first to call the police. Sounds ridiculous doesn't it. Thats because it is!

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